Plus 2 electric window motor

[elanplus2]

Hi All,

The circuit board on my Delco brand electric window motor is broken. I would like to get a replacement circuit board form a car wrecker.

The motor has a square shaped armature housing held by two long bolts that pass through the motor.

Can anyone advise on what other cars this motor was used on?

Cheers

ray


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[jeff jackson]

Errr......Far as I can recall the window motor was a Ford Classic Wiper motor, or could have been a MK1 Cortina Wiper motor.
not sure where you get one these days, although I have a spare in my garage, just in case my one crashes and burns!!!
Jeff.
----- Original Message -----
From: Edwards, Ray
To: 'Lotus elan list'
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:41 PM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Plus 2 electric window motor


Hi All,

The circuit board on my Delco brand electric window motor is broken. I would like to get a replacement circuit board form a car wrecker.

The motor has a square shaped armature housing held by two long bolts that pass through the motor.

Can anyone advise on what other cars this motor was used on?

Cheers

ray


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[elanplus2]

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for that, if it is true, then i can get heaps of them form a local wrecker no worries.

If anyone out there wants spare classic car parts for their lotus then give me a yell as there are heaps of parts here in kiwiland. So far I will be sourcing door handles for the elan boys and car jacks.

Ray


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: Wednesday, 18 December 2002 11:26
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] Plus 2 electric window motor


Errr......Far as I can recall the window motor was a Ford Classic Wiper motor, or could have been a MK1 Cortina Wiper motor.
not sure where you get one these days, although I have a spare in my garage, just in case my one crashes and burns!!!
Jeff.

----- Original Message -----
From: Edwards, Ray
To: 'Lotus elan list'
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:41 PM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Plus 2 electric window motor


Hi All,

The circuit board on my Delco brand electric window motor is broken. I would like to get a replacement circuit board form a car wrecker.

The motor has a square shaped armature housing held by two long bolts that pass through the motor.

Can anyone advise on what other cars this motor was used on?

Cheers

ray



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[elansprint71]

Ray and fellow NZ residents,
You are very lucky that you can find so many parts for old cars in your junk yards; the reason that so much has disappeared here in the UK is down to the salt which we put on the roads during icy weather- I understand that you use grit rather than salt over there. The only place I have seen in the UK where salt is not used is the Isle of Wight, where it is too prohibitive to ship the salt over, and also they have a much milder climate than the rest of us, being surrounded by (comparitively) warm water. It is common to see Anglias, A40's and Minors in everyday use there, and I understand that you have a similar situation in NZ.

Cheers,

Pete
Cheshire UK (Where the salt mines are).
----- Original Message -----
From: Edwards, Ray
To: '***@***.***'
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:18 PM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] RE: Plus 2 electric window motor


Hi Jeff,

Thanks for that, if it is true, then i can get heaps of them form a localwrecker no worries.

If anyone out there wants spare classic car parts for their lotus then give me a yell as there are heaps of parts here in kiwiland. So far I will be sourcing door handles for the elan boys and car jacks.

Ray


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: Wednesday, 18 December 2002 11:26
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] Plus 2 electric window motor


Errr......Far as I can recall the window motor was a Ford Classic Wiper motor, or could have been a MK1 Cortina Wiper motor.
not sure where you get one these days, although I have a spare in my garage, just in case my one crashes and burns!!!
Jeff.

----- Original Message -----
From: Edwards, Ray
To: 'Lotus elan list'
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:41 PM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Plus 2 electric window motor


Hi All,

The circuit board on my Delco brand electric window motor is broken. Iwould like to get a replacement circuit board form a car wrecker.

The motor has a square shaped armature housing held by two long bolts that pass through the motor.

Can anyone advise on what other cars this motor was used on?

Cheers

ray



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["Richard Hinds"]

Ray,

I don't want to disappoint you, but I'm sure the window motor for a Plus 2
is NOT the same as used in the smaller Elan.
I thought I had a problem with my Plus 2 window motors, but I was being
stupid and hadn't thought about what I was doing ( there are only two wires
from the motor; it uses it's own chassis for the "common" or earth wire, and
the two "live" wires are for Raise & Lower.
The motors are very well built, and I doubt if the motor has actually
failed.
I don't recognise the "circuit board"; do you mean the piece of paxolin the
terminals stick out from? There isn't a circuit board ( i.e. printed
circuit ) on the motors in my car!
I tried everywhere to find out which car was the donor for these motors, all
without success. Delco have a good webb site in the U.S.A., aimed at Classic
American Cars, but even they couldn't help. I can assure you it is NOT a
windscreen wiper motor!
If you need more info., or if you locate a donor car, I'd be pleased to
learn what it was.

Regards, Richard Hinds.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edwards, Ray" <***@***.***>
To: "'Lotus elan list'" <***@***.***>
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:41 PM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Plus 2 electric window motor


Hi All,

The circuit board on my Delco brand electric window motor is broken. I
would like to get a replacement circuit board form a car wrecker.

The motor has a square shaped armature housing held by two long bolts that
pass through the motor.

Can anyone advise on what other cars this motor was used on?

Cheers

ray


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[elanplus2]

Hi Richard,

Thanks for that advice.

I wasn't after a baby elan window motor.

The circuit board I refer to is the base plate that the brushes etc are attached to. It is circuit board material (of its day) but you correctly notethat it does not have printed circuits on it.

Its a common Delco motor, and last night I was flicking through an Austin A95/105 parts manual and there is the same motor attached to the wiper assembly on that car! I couldn't believe it!

ON Monday I will be going to the wreckers for the day, and I will secure one of these motors all going well to dismantle and check out the internals. If it is in fact the same internals, then i will advise the list.

Cheers

Ray



Ray,

I don't want to disappoint you, but I'm sure the window motor for a Plus 2
is NOT the same as used in the smaller Elan.
I don't recognise the "circuit board"; do you mean the piece of paxolin the
terminals stick out from? There isn't a circuit board ( i.e. printed
circuit ) on the motors in my car!
I tried everywhere to find out which car was the donor for these motors, all
without success. Delco have a good webb site in the U.S.A., aimed at Classic
American Cars, but even they couldn't help. I can assure you it is NOT a
windscreen wiper motor!
If you need more info., or if you locate a donor car, I'd be pleased to
learn what it was.

Regards, Richard Hinds.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edwards, Ray" <***@***.***>
To: "'Lotus elan list'" <***@***.***>
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:41 PM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Plus 2 electric window motor


Hi All,

The circuit board on my Delco brand electric window motor is broken. I
would like to get a replacement circuit board form a car wrecker.

The motor has a square shaped armature housing held by two long bolts that
pass through the motor.

Can anyone advise on what other cars this motor was used on?

Cheers

ray


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[Elan45]

Ray,

The normal Elan window motors are Cortina wiper motors. Obviously, no motormarked Delco is going to be a Ford part. I'm not sure what the +2 motors are from, but obviously something GM. Probably a Vauxhall part, so you mighttry looking at Holdens.

Roger



Thanks for that, if it is true, then i can get heaps of them form a local wrecker no worries.

If anyone out there wants spare classic car parts for their lotus then giveme a yell as there are heaps of parts here in kiwiland. So far I will be sourcing door handles for the elan boys and car jacks.

Ray


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: Wednesday, 18 December 2002 11:26
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] Plus 2 electric window motor


Errr......Far as I can recall the window motor was a Ford Classic Wiper motor, or could have been a MK1 Cortina Wiper motor.
not sure where you get one these days, although I have a spare in my garage, just in case my one crashes and burns!!!
Jeff.

----- Original Message -----
From: Edwards, Ray
To: 'Lotus elan list'
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:41 PM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Plus 2 electric window motor


Hi All,

The circuit board on my Delco brand electric window motor is broken. I would like to get a replacement circuit board form a car wrecker.

The motor has a square shaped armature housing held by two long bolts that pass through the motor.

Can anyone advise on what other cars this motor was used on?

Cheers

ray



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[elanplus2]

Thanks Roger for that advice,

What are your plans for Xmas? I hope to get lots of work done on finishing the house, and also time to work on the Plus 2 and a friends Plus 2.

I intend ringing Pat on Xmas day.

Hey, have you had a chance to look at the questions I sent you on 18th October? I have repeated them below.

Cheers

Ray






Hi Roger,

Good call re the wiring system for the cut out, but how do you do it if you have a mechanical oil pressure gauge?


Back on the Elite, I delved into my engine bits again last night. Boy do you have a good memory.

I noted the wider keyway on the crank compared to the crank pulley, and I now follow the T-piece key design you talked about. Did you ever make one of these?

The pulley is cracked around the keyway, so I suppose a solution to repair this is to weld up the crack and the keyway, and re-machine a new keyway to match the crank. The trouble with this is that the wider crank-width key way on the crank pulley leaves even less metal around the keyway. So maybe its beet to machine a new crank pulley with more beef around the keyway to allow for a wider keyway and leave the crank alone? Or just go with your idea to get the crank welded and a new smaller keyway machined into that! Options here for discussion with Brian.



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Pat has mentioned that I need a bronze bushing to go into the oil pump to support the drive shaft. Any advice here?



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In the #1 crank web someone has engraved the specs of the crank. I assume this was done at the regrind stage. I should have noted the specs down and advised you. Earlier you mentioned that you had the crank prepped to use English Ford mains and MGB 5 main rod bearing shells, as used in your Eleven. I have some new Vandervell big end bearings here that were supplied in the crank box. These will require measurement, but it would be logical to assume that they are to fit the reground crank and rods. I don't seem to have any main bearings. I will get Brian to measure those and if its been machined to EnFo then there should be no hassles getting the bearings here.


Wow! Thats lots of questions for now. You continued assistance is appreciated.

Ray


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[MikeC]

On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:00:56 +1300 Edwards, Ray wrote:


You are Colin Chapman & I claim my five pounds!


OTOH, it's summer where you live. Maybe you need to get out more



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