Price of Lotus Elan + 2 BRM for sale on PISTONHEADS.

Post by: **M.J.S** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:04 pm

http://www.pistonheads.com/SALES/1109360.htm

Am I missing something or has the seller accidently typed an extra zero on the end of the price?

Discuss.

Post by: **Elanintheforest** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:26 pm

I was offered this a couple of weeks ago, but it disappeared before I got to look at it...and I'd just bought chassis 24.

A couple of things to check out if anybody is seriously interested. Firstly, there wasn't really a BRM Plus 2. Mike Spence offered a tuning package for the Europa, Plus 2, Elan and Twin cam Escort / Lotus Cortina. This provided a better exhaust, bigger valves, modified ports, cams, skimmed head and re-jetted carbs. Quite a few twincam cars had this mod.

If there was an official 'BRM Plus 2', the first owner would be Mike Spence garage, and the registration number would be from the Reading area, where it was first registered. Something to check out with the seller. I suspect it's just a Plus 2 that's had some BRM mods done in period. Does that make it worth any more that another Plus 2? Well, maybe a bit, but remember that as this car hasn't been on the road for over 20 years, the exhaust, cams, valves and carbs will probably need doing anyway, and with a skimmed head....maybe a new head is required?...end of BRM stuff.

It certainly isn't like a BRM S3 Elan, which had the special paint job as well, and was sold as a BRM Elan.

Mark

Post by: **types26/36** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:56 pm

QUOTE FROM THE AD:
" Value cica ?40k on completion of restoration."

:shock:

Post by: **terryp** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:14 pm

Hello
Could it be this one that was on eBay a couple of months ago?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... TQ:GB:1123

Terry

Post by: **Elanintheforest** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:28 pm

Certainly looks like it, Terry...well spotted.

The registration number is SRX....a Reading number. DAMMMN. Why didn't I spot this on eBay????!

But I think that the guy who bought it on eBay probably paid enough for it

Mark

Post by: **terryp** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:52 pm

Mark
More here , its been relisted!

Terry
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lotus-Elan-2-BRM_ ... |294%3A200

Post by: **Elanintheforest** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:02 pm

Well I'll be.....Do you think it would be rude to offer him ?2945 for it??!!

Incidentally, regarding Flat Eric. If your bass speaker is too close to the engine, and Eric is banging continuously, this could be causing your recent oil leaks....low frequency waves.....

Just a theory you understand.

Mark

Post by: **terryp** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:13 pm

You might be on to something, I fitted two extra speakers recently for quadrophonic sound!
(you can't see the extra speakers ,under the dash, one behind an original chrome grill - just to put everyone's mind at rest)

back to my leaks

Terry

Post by: **john.p.clegg** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:32 pm

Mark

I've just bid ?101.00 but have been out-bid...

John :wink:

Post by: **1964 S1** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:48 am

I hit it at 2650... reserve not met..... next,,,

Post by: **richgilb** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:23 am

Elanintheforest wrote:Well I'll be.....Do you think it would be rude to offer him ?2945 for it??!!

Well he needs to make a profit....?2995 sounds fair to me...Sleaford to Stafford is about 40 quid in fuel, plus half a day's work at forty quid in today's recessionary times. Bob's your uncle. Everyone's a winner.

What do you reckon the premium would be for a well sorted +2 with BRM bits? about 20% more than a standard one? :?:

Post by: **Elanintheforest** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:35 am

I guess so, Rich. It's certainly an interesting car, and that Reading registration adds credibility to it being BRM modified from new (Mike Spence garage was near Reading, and that's where all the BRM mods were done). If it was a standard Plus 2, it would sell for probably ?2500 in that condition, so maybe a premium of a grand or so for the BRM connection? And really, that's if it has some written history with it...first owner Mike Spence, invoices etc. Otherwise it's just another twincam modified in the 70s...or even just a cam cover.

I bought my BDA Plus 2 a couple of years ago. One owner, perfect paint, perfect chrome, rebuilt engine, perfect interior but needing a chassis change (I got a new chassis with it). That was ?7500 with new chassis, and it has all documentation from new, including a write up on the car done by Motoring news in 1973. The engine Lotus should have put in the Plus 2 was how they described it! (the zetec hadn't been invented then!!). That's ?1000 less than this guy wants for this wreck of a car. I know which I'd prefer for the money.

Yep, I think ?3500 is absolute top money for this one, and that may be a bit generous. Then again, an original BRM cam cover would be ?500 on eBay.

Mark

Post by: **GrUmPyBoDgEr** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:26 am

Hey Mark, now don't start getting a complex about your BDA +2
Stand up & be proud :lol:

Some of us have sinned more :roll:

Have a good Weekend
John

Post by: **Elanintheforest** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:32 am

No complex here, John. And I'd have a Zetec in an Elan in a flash if I could do the job you've done in yours!!

Mark

Post by: **terryp** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:16 am

Someones had there bid cancelled for being foreign! So its back to ?1551
I wonder if I counted as foreign now?

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