Lotus Elan

Does anyone have an opinion on this car

PostPost by: phunter121 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:55 am

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PostPost by: Chrispy » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:09 am

I saw it on Pistonheads a while ago, been around for a bit. I like the colour, but not a fan of the roof. Looks like the head was converted to Weber at some point and the headlining etc looks a bit tatty. Wiring looks a bit exciting :lol: I feel like the price is a little ambitious...
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PostPost by: wotsisname » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:51 am

looks like it has an earlier front end and the sill embellishers look to be rivetted on.
I like the overall appearance
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PostPost by: alan.barker » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:45 pm

Chrispy wrote:I saw it on Pistonheads a while ago, been around for a bit. I like the colour, but not a fan of the roof. Looks like the head was converted to Weber at some point and the headlining etc looks a bit tatty. Wiring looks a bit exciting :lol: I feel like the price is a little ambitious...

Why do you say it was converted to Weber.
Lots of 1970 +2S cars had Bonnet with bulge BUT were Weber from new from Factory. :roll: :roll:
I used to have one like that and a friend at the moment also has one Bulge with Webers.
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PostPost by: deryck » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:30 pm

Looks great
was lagoon blue around in 1970?
my favourite colour on an Elan

Paul usually has a good margin in his cars so haggle,
get yourself a bargain,
dont forget a long warranty,

good luck!

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PostPost by: JimE » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:55 pm

The speedo reads 65k not 56k as stated in the advert. Jim
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PostPost by: JonB » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:23 pm

I like the colour, too.

Some pedantry:

Looks like the dashboard instruments are the wrong way round (ambient temperature / engine temperature). Sounds trivial but the ambient temperature dial is not electric, very difficult to remove.. Seems to be working though. Is that Smiths (time telling) clock original? Damage to right hand trim by steering column. Non matching fag lighter, probably not original. Map light doesn't look like it is working. Aftermarket seat belt buckles (which put the buckle at an unfortunate position but make it easier to unbuckle). Tiny Lotus badge by the glove box belongs on one of the rear coat hangers. Engine bay nothing special, check for oil leaks. Rusty demister vents, bit of a bugger to remove.

On the other hand it presents well and has a nice looking interior. Definitely optimistically priced, there are a few decent looking ones on eBay at the moment that you can compare this against.

Test drive it.

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PostPost by: draenog » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:04 pm

Things I noticed:

Judging from the band holding the two parts together, the brake servo has not been rebuilt (I would have expected this to be done as part of any brakes overhaul).

The VIN plate is on the wrong side.

The choke cable is non-original (C on the knob - the original Ford one is hard to find).

Carbs look to be replacement Weber 40DCOE 151s rather than the original 31s (depending on your point of view a good or a bad thing).
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PostPost by: Orsom Weels » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:53 pm

JonB wrote:Looks like the dashboard instruments are the wrong way round (ambient temperature / engine temperature). Sounds trivial but the ambient temperature dial is not electric, very difficult to remove.. Seems to be working though. Is that Smiths (time telling) clock original?

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Actually all the gauges are correct, & correctly positioned, for a +2S, the ammeter was changed for a volt meter, the Smiths clock changed for a Kinzle & the positions were changed with the introduction of the S130. :)
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PostPost by: JonB » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:18 pm

Ah-ha, Orsom, that would explain it; mine's an S130 and my Kinzle is broken.. :(
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PostPost by: phunter121 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:15 pm

Thank you for all your input on this.

The seller has confirmed the engine has been replaced and converted to 'big valve'. All the work is photographed.

I wondered what is the general consensus on replacement engines?

i.e.
Is it really common place and has little impact on value.
Is it rare to find a car with the original engine.
Should it be avoided as it affect value significantly or ability to sell in the future.
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PostPost by: JonB » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:59 pm

Hi Peter

I think what you are really asking is "Is it worth £25k?" and if so, my reply would be "not really", for the reasons given above. If you are worried about losing money when reselling it, perhaps a classic car bought from a dealer isn't for you. Look for a private sale. I think this car might be worth £16k.

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PostPost by: phunter121 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:28 pm

I have to say, I'd rather buy privately.....especially from an enthusiast.
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PostPost by: Spyder fan » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:19 pm

For sale, +2S 190/5 probably the best developed Elan +2 in the world, correct ride height, spotless Royal Blue paintwork,biscuit leather interior 0-60 in a genuine 6 seconds, top speed 135mph+ Wants for nothing

Call Alan for details ...... Actually not for sale..... the first paragraph made me change my mind :D

Seriously, +2’s are very nice cars to drive please do try to drive a few before you make your mind up on which to buy, you will instantly know if you have found a good one,
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PostPost by: Chrispy » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:00 pm

alan.barker wrote:Why do you say it was converted to Weber.
Lots of 1970 +2S cars had Bonnet with bulge BUT were Weber from new from Factory. :roll: :roll:
I used to have one like that and a friend at the moment also has one Bulge with Webers.
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Interesting, I thought the Stromberg's were from ~70 onwards? I've got the bulge on my early weber car, but it looks to be a replacement.
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