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Original soft hood fixing

PostPost by: Elanman99 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:41 pm

Its nearly 50 years so I cannot be certain, but I dont think those flaps were rubber originally, mine were made from a double thickness of the hood material itself, which was grey on the inside.

The stiffened strip on the front edge that fits in the slot above the windscreen had been manufactured with a strip of thick (plastic/mill-board?) sewn inside the same hood material. My replacement hood has a rubber 'fin' that sits in the slot but it works fine.

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PostPost by: gjz30075 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:17 am

Here are pics from the hood that was on my '72 Sprint, purchased by me in '78. I'm guessing it's
not a replacement because it had(s) plenty of patina in '78 and needed replacing at that time.
Rubber flaps around the window opening, four metal strips that get placed in hood for fixing it to the top of the windscreen, tan inside.

This is interesting because I'm wondering if there were different suppliers based on where the car was
going. Mine's a Federal Sprint.
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PostPost by: umbyfer » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:39 am

Thanks Ian and Greg! Some more question in order to rebuild the originality history:
1.are the screen swan or welded? Most of the new reproduction are welded and in some case with wrong not rounded corner of the screen.
2.about the two laces, inside near the screens, to fix the hood to the trail; how to close them by what?
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1.black external and grey inside; YES
2.screen swan or welded?? TO BE CONFIRMD
3.Lateral rubber flaps. ALMOST YES, IT SEEMS ORIGINAL; BETTER TO INVESTIGATE MORE
4.Fixed on the rear to the body by mail tenax; YES
5.screen with round corner; YES
6.fixing the hood to the trail bar; how? UNDER INVESTIGATION
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PostPost by: gjz30075 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:51 pm

Umberto, my windows / screens are sewn in, not welded. I'm still unclear on your question #6.
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PostPost by: MarkDa » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:50 pm

Umberto is considering making the hood fully removable to avoid scrunching it under the hood cover when down.
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PostPost by: pereirac » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:04 pm

Umberto,

A word of advice... don't try fitting the hood on a cold day.. You need a nice hot day when the material becomes flexible. I bought a new hood from Sue Miller last year and am still waiting for a hot day to fit it! In Italy you probably have more chance of finding a hot day than me! :D

Sue's hoods come with a rubber strip sewn alone the front edge rather than use fabric tubes with metal strips in them. I hope this is better? I inspected a lot of hoods at the Silverstone Classic last year and the one from Sue seemed to be the best fit (I contacted the owner of the Elan to see where they bought it from).

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PostPost by: pharriso » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:31 pm

gjz30075 wrote:This is interesting because I'm wondering if there were different suppliers based on where the car was
going. Mine's a Federal Sprint.


Greg, it would have to have a different part number if it were different, however none are shown in the part list.
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PostPost by: Elanman99 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:58 pm

MarkDa wrote:Umberto is considering making the hood fully removable to avoid scrunching it under the hood cover when down.


Its up to Umberto as to how he fixes the hood, I think all he has enquired about relate to hood details of how the original hood were fitted.

The original hood folded neatly under the cover, not scrunched.

Scrunching is a new feature caused by some aftermarket hoods not being made to the same specification as the factory ones (material type and thickness, positioning of window outlines etc).

I have a replacement hood which I manage to get under the cover but because the strips between the windows are not in the exactly the right positions its a bit of a struggle.

In spite of what I said earlier I now am sure the flaps round the door window frame were originally rubber, and that the windows were welded in place.

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PostPost by: MarkDa » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:22 pm

Who do we reckon provides hoods closest to original sizes and materials?
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PostPost by: gjz30075 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:08 pm

MarkDa wrote:Who do we reckon provides goods closet to original sizes and materials?


I'd sure like to know, too. The original / oem was really the best. That's why I kept mine, hoping
to find someone who can reproduce exactly.
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