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Smiths F465 Heater removal & Testing

PostPost by: djb222 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:00 pm

Following on from yesterdays post...The wiring loom has been removed from the dash and I set about the easy task of removing the Smiths F465 Heater for refurbishment and testing........

https://youtu.be/LmJEvoIxx7Q
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PostPost by: The Veg » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:02 pm

Thanks for that. After all I did with my Plus 2's heater, I was curious whether or not the smaller Elan used the same heater- it doesn't. And it looks like the fan motor doesn't have as close a space to fit in either.
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PostPost by: fatboyoz » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:31 am

Hi David,
Thanks for posting the link to your video. Videos like these are invaluable to people restoring their cars. Especially when years have passed between dismantling and putting back together.
One of the interesting things that I notice, is the orientation of the heater box side panels. There was some discussion, several years ago, as to whether the demister outlet tubes should be toward the front of the car or toward the rear (closer to dash panel) as yours are.
Your S4 is of the same vintage as mine, and my heater connections are as per your car.
Cheers, keep the videos coming,
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djb222 wrote:Following on from yesterdays post...The wiring loom has been removed from the dash and I set about the easy task of removing the Smiths F465 Heater for refurbishment and testing........

https://youtu.be/LmJEvoIxx7Q
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PostPost by: Frogelan » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:25 am

Very useful and informative video. Thank you. :D
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PostPost by: djb222 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:00 am

Thanks for the comments.

If you watched one of my first videos, all of this work started with removing the engine to change the water pump (which is still to be done) and be back on the road last July. As often is the case one thing leads to another...........

I just love the simplicity of these cars and they are such a joy to work on. Ok some jobs are fiddly and a swear box is handy.....(door latches) Which I need to do again.

The pics and videos are fun to do and provide a reference and, if I ever sell useful for the new owner to see whats been done.

This story is far from over...
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PostPost by: 69S4 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:56 pm

djb222 wrote:
Ok some jobs are fiddly and a swear box is handy.....(door latches) Which I need to do again.



My rule of thumb is that the swear box fills up twice as fast with reassembly than disassembly.

Great videos though - and some good piano playing as well :lol:
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PostPost by: pcarew » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:14 pm

Interesting to see that the eye level vents come out of the heater box on the opposite side on my S3SE!

Here are some photos of when I refurb'd mine last summer.

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50 yrs of moisture

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50 yrs of accumulated crud

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Cleaned bearings and checked brushes

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Back together with restored case metalwork


Notice the face vent outlets are at the "dash side" of the heater box.
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PostPost by: ericbushby » Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:32 pm

Paul
Apparently the dash outlets were moved to the back later to give more room for the wiring.
Some owners have moved them during repairs also.
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PostPost by: disquek » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:44 am

I just replaced the heater core and cleaned mine up too. The old heater core was leaking. The dash vents are in the back.

-Kyle

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PostPost by: fatboyoz » Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:10 pm

Hi Kyle,
Where did you buy the replacement heater core?
Cheers,
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disquek wrote:I just replaced the heater core and cleaned mine up too. The old heater core was leaking. The dash vents are in the back.

-Kyle

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PostPost by: disquek » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:38 pm

I found on this forum that it’s from an FX4 London Taxi. So I ordered one for that spec from eBay.uk. It came to the states quickly and was about $90 us.

Since then I found that the new Bucklands book confirms the taxi source.

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PostPost by: pcarew » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:10 pm

ericbushby wrote:Apparently the dash outlets were moved to the back later to give more room for the wiring.

Eric,
I did not know that. This forum is truly a mine of information.
Thanks.
Paul.
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PostPost by: ericbushby » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:10 pm

Paul,
I think it is mentioned in Brian Buckland's book. The main source of accurate information.
Eric

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PostPost by: fatboyoz » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:48 am

Thanks Kyle,
Appreciate the info.
Cheers,
Colin.



disquek wrote:I found on this forum that it’s from an FX4 London Taxi. So I ordered one for that spec from eBay.uk. It came to the states quickly and was about $90 us.

Since then I found that the new Bucklands book confirms the taxi source.

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PostPost by: pharriso » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:55 pm

I'm running about a week behind you - which is great for me!

Just got my Heater box out, although nowhere as lucky as you:
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Full of leaves & pine needles

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Fan blade removed

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Rubber elbows beyond repair

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Motor full of water & rust


After a strip down & rebuild we're up & running for the first time under my ownership:
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Now to put her all back together again... :|
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