Lotus Elan

Elan S1 1964

PostPost by: gherlt » Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:21 pm

1964 S1 , chassis 26/3606.

Originally delivered to Switzerland (Andy from Lotus Cars confirmed this), first registered there in May 1967,
imported to Germany in 1971. Last owner bought the car in 1973 and put it off the street in 1977.
Last owner had the car stored in a rented industrial building (with more cars from him and his brother), when suddenly they were called asking why they had not moved the cars. The demolition of the building already had started. So all the cars had to be moved in one afternoon, and in this process the engine and the gearbox went missing.

Sate of the car:
Sad. Without engine, no gearbox, no steering wheel and one seat only.
Body widened, with a roll bar fitted, scratches, paint not original. In need of repair.
Non original instruments.
German papers.

Reason for selling:
I am quite unsure if I am fit for the task. I am getting older and lot of work to be done ... :(
The eldest son is euphoric, but we both have less time available as some years ago, and I calculated that at this speed we need 5 years to start seeing some light ... or a lot of cash ...

Price:
Rather selling I would prefer change it for a LHD Coupe, ideally a S3.
Of course value would be compensated.

Location:
Currently the car is in Tarragona (Spain), for cleaning.

Pictures:
Later this week.
1964 S1 (finishing engine, awainting body repair)
1967 S3 DHC (now adjusted by Brian Buckland, totally calm idle)
1969 S4 FHC (finishing interior, changing wiring loom)
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PostPost by: john1180 » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:22 pm

Quite a story! Anxious to see pictures
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PostPost by: gherlt » Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:58 am

Yes, indeed.
I would like to add that the Weber head, valve cover & carburators are present.
1964 S1 (finishing engine, awainting body repair)
1967 S3 DHC (now adjusted by Brian Buckland, totally calm idle)
1969 S4 FHC (finishing interior, changing wiring loom)
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PostPost by: gherlt » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:02 pm

I started cleaning the car, but it also started raining ... cleaned enough to see the car is not brown, but white :-)

Here are the pictures:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= ... sp=sharing
1964 S1 (finishing engine, awainting body repair)
1967 S3 DHC (now adjusted by Brian Buckland, totally calm idle)
1969 S4 FHC (finishing interior, changing wiring loom)
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PostPost by: Famous Frank » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:21 pm

Well at least some decisions have been made for you. You've probably heard people that say if you restore the car it's worth less. I don't think that's the case here. You're in luck, it needs to be restored. It's only money, time and labor, and lots of each. But I have one that's much worse. I'll trade you?

And people say you can't find an elan anymore for less than $15,000. Rubbish! They are out there.

Glad you saved it.

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PostPost by: greg40green » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:36 pm

PM sent
Thanks , Greg.
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PostPost by: gherlt » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:51 pm

Hi all,
rather than using the PM service I would prefer you contact me by email through gherlt(at)yahoo dot es.
It is much easier and I dont have to export/delete/move old PMs ...
Thanks.

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1969 S4 FHC (finishing interior, changing wiring loom)
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PostPost by: gherlt » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:20 am

Hello,
the response that this car has generated is quite high, in quite 36 hours there are quite a lot of "very keen" buyers.
At a final stage the car will have to go, but please remember my first post:

"Rather selling I would prefer change it for a LHD Coupe, ideally a S3. "

I have two offers with cars exchange, for me those have preference as with money in hand I have to search cars again. And although - as Frank said - there are cars out there, finding a good one for reasonable price needs time. Those cars offered would not have been on the market without this exchange offer.

So, in short: exchange has preference over selling.
And: if the Coupe offered is in very good condition, value will be compensated...up to a reasonable price.
Inspecting the offered cars needs time, so please, do not expect a decision this Friday ...

And Saturday I am off for holidays and basically, I need them !
Meanwhile, feel free to ask for details or pictures of details.

Thanks you

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1964 S1 (finishing engine, awainting body repair)
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1969 S4 FHC (finishing interior, changing wiring loom)
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PostPost by: mariodschy » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:40 am

Nice color schema, looks like a ideal race projekt.
- 1972 Lotus Elan Sprint LHD/DHC
- 1962 Austin Healey Sprite MK II - Sold 09.05.2016

Sorry for my bad survival English ;-)
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PostPost by: gherlt » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:51 am

As requested, I added the pictures of the (uncleaned) cylinder head ..
1964 S1 (finishing engine, awainting body repair)
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1969 S4 FHC (finishing interior, changing wiring loom)
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PostPost by: gherlt » Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:32 am

As requested, more details on the papers:
I do have a German "Kfz-Brief". It states the previous two German owners. It does not indicate who or how many owners it had in Switzerland, is also does not bear my name. In Germany the possesion of this paper equals possesion of the car. Of course, I do have a purchase contract with the PO, who is the last owner in the papers.

Exact dates stated in the papers:
First registered 29.5.1967
Imported to Germany 22.7.1971
Registered in Germany 22.8.1972
Put off street 31.08.1972
Put on street 30.04.1973
SOLD to new owner 30.04.1973
Put off street 30.09.1973
Put on street 12.07.1974 - Put off street 14.11.1974
Put on street 26.08.1975 - put off street 10.12.1975
Put on street 9.12.1976 - put off street 18.08.1977 ...
(In Germany, when a car is put off street, you do not pay taxes nor insurance.)

Also states that the widening of the mudguards was done in 1975
And finally, the stamped engine number of the cylinder head matches that of the papers.

The PO stated that he bought the car from Auto Becker, a quite famous luxury car dealer.
The papers contain a small error, indicating "Elan S4" as model.
1964 S1 (finishing engine, awainting body repair)
1967 S3 DHC (now adjusted by Brian Buckland, totally calm idle)
1969 S4 FHC (finishing interior, changing wiring loom)
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PostPost by: ArnoCaterham » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:45 am

I've blocks, 4 bolt and 6 bolt and probarly also a gearbox...
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PostPost by: Lotusmallorca » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:14 pm

Elan S1 sadly minus some parts!
Do you have any photos?
Could you scan the car docs and chassis plate?
Is it LHD?
What is your asking price?
I am in Mallorca and looking for an S1 / S2 to restore.
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PostPost by: lotus looker » Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:12 pm

I also very much LIKE the color/paint scheme. :D

THIS CAR definitely has POTENTIAL!!!...Thus the reasons for the numerous inquires :wink:

"A diamond in the rough"!!!...Mark
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PostPost by: gherlt » Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:37 pm

Hi,
as some predicted, it is difficult to match a swap, so it is up for direct sale now.
My asking price is 16.000 EUR or best offer.
If your want offer a bit more, your are welcome :-)
If you leave bits behind, also welcome :-)

The car is in Tarragona, Spain.
1964 S1 (finishing engine, awainting body repair)
1967 S3 DHC (now adjusted by Brian Buckland, totally calm idle)
1969 S4 FHC (finishing interior, changing wiring loom)
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