Elan Quandary
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:37 pm
Last Friday I went to look at an Elan, having been contacted by its owner who doesn't quite know what to do with it.
It's a 1967 S3 SE DHC, Right-hand-drive, which hasn't been used for 8 years or more. He's moving to a smaller home and won't have room for it, and asked for my advice. I don't know what to tell him, but thought I'd ask the collective wisdom here for opinions, and maybe some idea of its value.
Chassis:
It has a Spyder frame,which seems to be in very good shape. I could see that it need new trackrod ends, as well as front and rear dampers (shock-absorbers). The rear in particular carried on bouncing well after my vigorous depression. There are also signs of perishing rubber bushes etc.
Body:
In pretty good shape generally, apart from the bonnet (hood)which has a very non-standard bulge and several cracks. There are one or two other stress cracks that need attention, but I think it could be cleaned up and presentable, though not concours, without a full respray. I'm told that the hood (top) is in good shape, though I did not see it. It has a tonneau cover. As I said above, it is Right-hand drive.
Interior:
Non-standard, but nicely finished. The dashboard is to the owner's design, non-standard and with extra instruments (gauges), the switches are the later rocker type and wrong for the car, but it's all nicely done.
Engine / transmission:
Here's where it gets difficult. While the gearbox and final drive are standard Ford / Elan components, the car lost its Twin-cam engine in England many years ago, before the current owner bought the car. Like me he's a Brit and brought it to Texas when he moved here some 15 to 20 years ago. It has a 1600 Crossflow Ford engine, possibly with special camshaft and pistons, maybe head work too. It has been equipped with twin 40 DCOEs and a tubular exhaust manifold, but I don't know about its internals. It wasn't possible to start it, nor would I want to without further examination and preparation after a long period of idleness. It does however turn over with the car in gear and pushed.
So what to do? I reckon, optimistically, that it will need 2000 - 2,500 USD in parts (shocks, tyres, battery, brake kits, suspension bushes, rotoflexes and other perishables) to get it back on the road, plus labour of course. Which raises another question - who to do it for him? He'd like an enthusiast to do it part-time to keep costs down. Difficult! Anybody care to estimate how long it would take, or what it would cost? He has no interest in doing it himself and I don't want to either; I'm trying to cut back on that kind of thing as I get older!
What's it worth as it sits, what it might be worth in running order? I don't think a full restoration is on the cards, the acquisition or build cost of a Twink rules that out. In any case, as a driver, a well-sorted Crossflow wouldn't lose much, if anything, in performance terms to a standard Twink.
Any and all ideas or suggestions are welcome.
Sorry the photos aren't great, I only had my phone and the lighting wasn't too friendly.
It's a 1967 S3 SE DHC, Right-hand-drive, which hasn't been used for 8 years or more. He's moving to a smaller home and won't have room for it, and asked for my advice. I don't know what to tell him, but thought I'd ask the collective wisdom here for opinions, and maybe some idea of its value.
Chassis:
It has a Spyder frame,which seems to be in very good shape. I could see that it need new trackrod ends, as well as front and rear dampers (shock-absorbers). The rear in particular carried on bouncing well after my vigorous depression. There are also signs of perishing rubber bushes etc.
Body:
In pretty good shape generally, apart from the bonnet (hood)which has a very non-standard bulge and several cracks. There are one or two other stress cracks that need attention, but I think it could be cleaned up and presentable, though not concours, without a full respray. I'm told that the hood (top) is in good shape, though I did not see it. It has a tonneau cover. As I said above, it is Right-hand drive.
Interior:
Non-standard, but nicely finished. The dashboard is to the owner's design, non-standard and with extra instruments (gauges), the switches are the later rocker type and wrong for the car, but it's all nicely done.
Engine / transmission:
Here's where it gets difficult. While the gearbox and final drive are standard Ford / Elan components, the car lost its Twin-cam engine in England many years ago, before the current owner bought the car. Like me he's a Brit and brought it to Texas when he moved here some 15 to 20 years ago. It has a 1600 Crossflow Ford engine, possibly with special camshaft and pistons, maybe head work too. It has been equipped with twin 40 DCOEs and a tubular exhaust manifold, but I don't know about its internals. It wasn't possible to start it, nor would I want to without further examination and preparation after a long period of idleness. It does however turn over with the car in gear and pushed.
So what to do? I reckon, optimistically, that it will need 2000 - 2,500 USD in parts (shocks, tyres, battery, brake kits, suspension bushes, rotoflexes and other perishables) to get it back on the road, plus labour of course. Which raises another question - who to do it for him? He'd like an enthusiast to do it part-time to keep costs down. Difficult! Anybody care to estimate how long it would take, or what it would cost? He has no interest in doing it himself and I don't want to either; I'm trying to cut back on that kind of thing as I get older!
What's it worth as it sits, what it might be worth in running order? I don't think a full restoration is on the cards, the acquisition or build cost of a Twink rules that out. In any case, as a driver, a well-sorted Crossflow wouldn't lose much, if anything, in performance terms to a standard Twink.
Any and all ideas or suggestions are welcome.
Sorry the photos aren't great, I only had my phone and the lighting wasn't too friendly.