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Two at Once!

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:32 pm
by Tom Cotter
My son Brian and I have each purchased Lotus Elan roadster projects and plan to restore them side-by-side. I hope you'll bare with me as I ask very elementary questions. Thanks in advance.

Re: Two at Once!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:51 am
by The Veg
Welcome Tom! Sounds like you and your son are in for plenty of adventure!

Where in NC are you? I get up there for business a bit- in fact I'll be near Fayetteville this week.

Re: Two at Once!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:20 am
by tedtaylor
post pictures, especially BEFORE and after shots!

Re: Two at Once!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:37 am
by Certified Lotus
Fantastic! Welcome Tom and Brian. You will find it a very enjoyable project.

Here are my “twins”.

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Re: Two at Once!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:30 am
by gjz30075
Welcome Tom!

Re: Two at Once!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:48 am
by elanfan1
Certified Lotus wrote:Fantastic! Welcome Tom and Brian. You will find it a very enjoyable project.

Here are my “twins”.

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Crikey! Talk about optical illusions the car on the right almost looks like a scale model of the one on the right!

Re: Two at Once!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:09 pm
by prezoom
You are going to have to spend less time on the road. Are we going to be able to follow along with your restorations with you and your son on Hagarty as well as here? Former owner of CSX2176

Re: Two at Once!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:05 pm
by Elan45
Tom,
Were these both barn finds? LOL

I spend my winters in Florida right off US-1 and I have 2 Elans there, one( a S3 DHC tI restored the first time in 1982-85, then again after a deer hit in 2010. The other, is a pre-airflow FHC that I'm restoring. Hopefully it will be back among the running next spring. I'm so confident this year that I'm taking engine parts along so that I can build a motor while the body is in the paint shop.

I know you travel a fair amount and I'd be honored if your woody wagon visited my driveway. My neighbor has a 41Merc woody I'm sure you would like to see (not for sale) PM me.

Roger Sieling, you'ld remember my light green Lotus Eleven

Re: Two at Once!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:23 am
by Famous Frank
Welcome Tom! Maybe do one at a time so you have one to look at to remind you how it goes back together!

Just a thought.

Frank

Re: Two at Once!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:04 pm
by Thornts
Welcome indeed Tom. As the custodian of your last Elan (I assume you haven't had any more in the mean time), I'll be trying to keep pace with your twins as you work on them. As you can perhaps tell, I have not been making huge progress with the S3 SE FHC though the 'History' has come together nicely in no small part due to this forum and Mark 'Elan in Forest' in particular. I need to join the dots between it going back to Lotus and arriving with you, perhaps starting with Christopher, the woodworking guy you bought the car from who thus far I've not been able to track down.
All the best and good luck!
Rob
S3 SE FHC
S2 7
22
S1 Elise

Re: Two at Once!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:19 am
by Tom Cotter
Tom Cotter wrote:My son Brian and I have each purchased Lotus Elan roadster projects and plan to restore them side-by-side. I hope you'll bare with me as I ask very elementary questions. Thanks in advance.


November 23, 2018
We spent a little bit of time over the Thanksgiving weekend cleaning and documenting each car. I will describe each for you.

Lotus Elan #263802, Engine # 1943
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I bought this car out of McPherson, Kansas, in mid-2018. It had been owned by a gentleman, and I bought it from his daughter after his passing. It had been sitting in a warehouse since the 1970s, and was covered with "warehouse filth." It is registered as a 1965 and has 43,114 miles on the odometer.

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Someone had attempted to strip the paint and in some places sanded through the gel coat. It does not appear to have any body damage. The body seems solid and without cracks.

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It's an early car with toggle switches. The wood dash will likely need replacing.

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The engine seems complete. During my annual car party, "Tom'sWoody Party," I had five friends working on the car and they got it running in 3 hours and forty minutes!

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The number plate seems to be correct, listing the engine number as #1943 and the Unit #3802. The lengthy number on the plate seems to read #US65 CHNO 26/3802

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Thankfully the correct steering wheel is in still in place and in good condition!

Re: Two at Once!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:51 am
by Tom Cotter
Tom Cotter wrote:My son Brian and I have each purchased Lotus Elan roadster projects and plan to restore them side-by-side. I hope you'll bare with me as I ask very elementary questions. Thanks in advance.


November 23, 2018

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The second Elan is Unit # 7319, Engine # LP/8818. It was purchased from Lotus expert, William Taylor in Suburban Denver, Colorado. We dragged it home three years ago, where it has sat until now. I has 94,562 miles on the odometer. The car is very clean, when compared to the white Elan, but the body does need work.

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The left front fender is in pretty rough condition. If anyone has a spare, please contact me at: [email protected]" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank. The headlight mechanisms also need work. My son has not totally decided to restore the car, and has considered a 26R look.

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All four fender lips have been flared and are in pretty sad condition. I had tried to purchase new fender lips from Fay Curtis, who seems to be a very nice lady, but doesn't seem to want the business. If anyone has suggestions on alternative fiberglass suppliers, please let me know. Thank you.

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The trunk is sound, but the rear panel and the left quarter-panel need major work or replacement. If you have one, please let me know.

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The dash and gauges are in good condition, as is the steering wheel. I believe the dashboard is in good enough condition to refinish and use again.

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The interior, when compared to the white car, is cherry. The seats are usable as is, but the carpeting needs replacing.

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The engine is clean and complete. I tried to get it running, but even though is had sufficient fuel and spark, it didn't fire. Then I did a compression test. Front to back: 30-0-50-0. I guess that's why it never fired! A rebuild is in order.

Re: Two at Once!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:56 am
by gjz30075
Talk to Ken at Dave Bean. I think he supplied some fiberglass bits to Tim Suddard , for the 'Classic
Motorsports' Elan resto.

Re: Two at Once!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:32 am
by StressCraxx
Tom Cotter wrote:
Tom Cotter wrote:My son Brian and I have each purchased Lotus Elan roadster projects and plan to restore them side-by-side. I hope you'll bare with me as I ask very elementary questions. Thanks in advance.


November 23, 2018

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The second Elan is Unit # 7319, Engine # LP/8818. It was purchased from Lotus expert, William Taylor in Suburban Denver, Colorado. We dragged it home three years ago, where it has sat until now. I has 94,562 miles on the odometer. The car is very clean, when compared to the white Elan, but the body does need work.

IMG_5312.JPG


The left front fender is in pretty rough condition. If anyone has a spare, please contact me at: [email protected]" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank. The headlight mechanisms also need work. My son has not totally decided to restore the car, and has considered a 26R look.

IMG_5314.JPG


All four fender lips have been flared and are in pretty sad condition. I had tried to purchase new fender lips from Fay Curtis, who seems to be a very nice lady, but doesn't seem to want the business. If anyone has suggestions on alternative fiberglass suppliers, please let me know. Thank you.

IMG_5315.JPG


The trunk is sound, but the rear panel and the left quarter-panel need major work or replacement. If you have one, please let me know.

IMG_5319.JPG


The dash and gauges are in good condition, as is the steering wheel. I believe the dashboard is in good enough condition to refinish and use again.

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The interior, when compared to the white car, is cherry. The seats are usable as is, but the carpeting needs replacing.

IMG_5325.JPG

The engine is clean and complete. I tried to get it running, but even though is had sufficient fuel and spark, it didn't fire. Then I did a compression test. Front to back: 30-0-50-0. I guess that's why it never fired! A rebuild is in order.


Your Unit # 7319, Engine # LP/8818 is a rare car. It appears to be a "S3 Super Safety". Only a few hundred examples were built until the S4 was introduced. Elan45 owns one and mine is one as well.

Regards,
Dan

Re: Two at Once!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:09 am
by Bombay Racing Green
Hi Tom,

You have a PM.

Regards,