Re: Thimble lights to LED daytime running lights
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:07 pm
Maybe someone can en"lighten" me on how the sidelights are wired(switched).
My original Federal S4 came with the sidelights holes blanked off. The indicator lamps (turn signals) were wired to work as parking lights as well as turn signals (dual filament). The indicator, in park function, is controlled by a toggle switch (on/off) next to the headlamp vacuum switch. The way these were wired is that the indicators (park function) can be switched on and off when the headlights are off but are powered on, regardless of toggle position, when the headlamps are up/on. The directional function goes independently through the stalk as normal.
I am considering putting the sidelights into the blank holes on my S4 body but wondering how I should wire/switch these.
1. Just gang them with the existing indicators (park/running wire(red)). So the sidelights and the indicators will be both on together (when headlights up or when switched on separately)
2. From looking at a wiring diagram (though there are many versions) it appears that for non-Federal cars (at least compared to my 69 S4), that the indicator lights are only used for turn signals and the sidelights are used independently as parking or running lights. So the "indicators" only light when activated by the turn signal? Is that correct? I could rewire to that operation but its probably not legal here in California.
So, I am left either just having the added sidelights act the same as the indicators (except for the flashing turn signal aspect) or if I separate the sidelights and indicators need to come up with a different way of switching the sidelights. I noticed that in tedtaylor's first picture of his LED conversion that the sidelights are on but the indicators are not. As this is a US (but later car, I believe) how are the lights switched? Later picture shows both sidelights and indicators on but without headlights. So, a bit confusing. Tedtaylor: do you have separate switching for the sidelights and indicators (perhaps a 3 position toggle) or ?
Thanks
My original Federal S4 came with the sidelights holes blanked off. The indicator lamps (turn signals) were wired to work as parking lights as well as turn signals (dual filament). The indicator, in park function, is controlled by a toggle switch (on/off) next to the headlamp vacuum switch. The way these were wired is that the indicators (park function) can be switched on and off when the headlights are off but are powered on, regardless of toggle position, when the headlamps are up/on. The directional function goes independently through the stalk as normal.
I am considering putting the sidelights into the blank holes on my S4 body but wondering how I should wire/switch these.
1. Just gang them with the existing indicators (park/running wire(red)). So the sidelights and the indicators will be both on together (when headlights up or when switched on separately)
2. From looking at a wiring diagram (though there are many versions) it appears that for non-Federal cars (at least compared to my 69 S4), that the indicator lights are only used for turn signals and the sidelights are used independently as parking or running lights. So the "indicators" only light when activated by the turn signal? Is that correct? I could rewire to that operation but its probably not legal here in California.
So, I am left either just having the added sidelights act the same as the indicators (except for the flashing turn signal aspect) or if I separate the sidelights and indicators need to come up with a different way of switching the sidelights. I noticed that in tedtaylor's first picture of his LED conversion that the sidelights are on but the indicators are not. As this is a US (but later car, I believe) how are the lights switched? Later picture shows both sidelights and indicators on but without headlights. So, a bit confusing. Tedtaylor: do you have separate switching for the sidelights and indicators (perhaps a 3 position toggle) or ?
Thanks