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PostPost by: gino1 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:10 pm

Could be something to do with two inspection holes for setting vernier pulleys ?? the mind boggles... :?

On another point I have a Marston radiator fitted on my cars and some have the corners chamfered and some dont... was this one shown in the picture a later one ??

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PostPost by: Certified Lotus » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:27 pm

Those “things” on the cam cover are oil breathers. I have the same on my S2, but only one of them. I thought it was custom but now know someone was making them at one point in time. They are welded onto the cam cover. I wonder who was making them back in the 70’s?
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PostPost by: nigelrbfurness » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:12 pm

I was wondering about those handles on the front of the cam cover too. The car has S1 window lifters but an S2 dashboard. There were some late '64 S1s made with S2 some features, could be one of those but a replacement crashpad and dashboard for an S2 will fit an S1 shell so could have been fitted quite recently. The seats are incorrect too and the steering wheel is from an S4.

Whether or not its a bargain depends on what it fetches. At the moment it is only bid to around 10K USD which is cheap for an early car. It has the makings of an easily restorable project for an early series car.

If it was in the UK I'd be looking at it.

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PostPost by: groucho » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:08 pm

I'm pretty sure that's a homemade replacement dash. My dash is similar, made by a previous owner out of marine plywood. If the original S1 glovebox was damaged and the original dash worn out, it's probably easier to just build an S2-style dash.

No trunk photos, either... just an upside-down picture of the inside of the trunk lid, with what appears to be a broken tab on the locking mechanism. No armrest padding, either. Lots of strange things with this car.

IMHO, the current bid price is crazy cheap, though, for a running/driving S1. I'm sure it'll jump up closer to the end of the auction.
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PostPost by: nomad » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:43 pm

May not be so cheap considering how many things that are wrong about this car. Just about every where you look. When it would have been no more difficult to make things close to right! Scares me as to how much more isn't right that the seller isn't mentioning or showing. Currently about the right price for a restoration candidate and that is really what it should be.

That Dash! Looks to be a piece of veneered sawdust board!

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PostPost by: gjz30075 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:44 pm

Breathers.
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PostPost by: nomad » Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:04 pm

My question's about the frame turrets and whether or not the car even has a heater since it obviously isn't hooked up, are apparently going to go unanswered. As well as what he encountered with the lattice work in the body while it was being restored.

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PostPost by: StressCraxx » Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:09 pm

I thought the breathers looked really familiar. Back when dinosaurs roamed the earth and rail dragsters had the engines mounted in front with the driver straddling the diff and transmission, I sold aircraft quality aluminum and alloy steel tubing to places like Moon Equipment Company in Santa Fe Springs.

You can still buy them! http://www.mooneyesusa.com/category-s/191.htm

The Twinks seemed to be built pretty loosely and the lone vent at the rear of the head behind the intake runners was a bit on the small side. So many owners and engine builders installed these to the head to keep from pushing oil out through the crank seals, timing chest and cam bore plugs. I have seen a few Twink powered vintage race cars with them. The owner of this car could add the "Moon Equipped? sticker to his car or toolbox!

http://www.mooneyesusa.com/Moon-Equipped-Stickers-Decals-s/93.htm
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PostPost by: vstibbard » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:34 am

period mod they are cam cover breathers

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PostPost by: groucho » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:12 pm

Sold, $21,760. Not a screaming deal but still a pretty good deal for an Elan S1 in 2019, IMHO, assuming the buyer is looking for a driver and not a perfect restoration.
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PostPost by: rcfurse » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:43 pm

And look at the exhaust manifold. Weird too.
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PostPost by: knockoffnut » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:02 pm

that actually looks like a correct S1 exhaust, and early head casting too. The car was posted as an S2 but is actually a late run S1...
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PostPost by: tedtaylor » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:20 pm

the deal breaker for me (even though i'm not wanting the car myself) is that FUNKY cat fish front mouth treatment. No one here is discussing that atrocity?
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PostPost by: groucho » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:51 pm

tedtaylor wrote:the deal breaker for me (even though i'm not wanting the car myself) is that FUNKY cat fish front mouth treatment. No one here is discussing that atrocity?

ACK! I hadn't even noticed that! That is ghastly. They turned the Elan smile into a frown! Why in the world was that done........?
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PostPost by: bitsobrits » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:31 pm

tedtaylor wrote:the deal breaker for me (even though i'm not wanting the car myself) is that FUNKY cat fish front mouth treatment. No one here is discussing that atrocity?


Hence my comment back on the 31rst that it appeared the car was crying....because it was so poorly "restored".
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