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Philips Turnolock Radio

PostPost by: fasterbyelan » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:37 pm

At long last I have obtained a Turnolock radio without paying OTT for it. It is the 22RN513 variety and in great visual condition.

I have been unable to get an installation document for the radio and am therefore unsure what the grey coloured wire is for. It comes out the back next to the negative/black wire and is fitted with a Lucas Female connector. I suspect it is to illuminate the display but am reluctant to stick 12V up it for fear of frying my new toy!

Would be grateful for some advice and a copy of the manual if anyone has one. I do have the manual for the earlier version but the wiring is clearly different.

Cheers!
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PostPost by: djb222 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:55 pm

Hi,

If you can't find anyone who can copy the manual for you, you should be able to find one online, unfortunately you have to pay, about $5 try http://www.philips.owner-manuals.com/PH ... 1-20a.html
The days of locating free manuals seems to have gone.

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PostPost by: PeterK » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:12 pm

Could that be the power feed to the electric aerial ?
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PostPost by: fasterbyelan » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:53 pm

Well I bit the bullet on my return home and now have Radio 3 booming out in what I have to say is not bad sound quality (been listening to DAB for too long!). It's a lovely radio!

Anyway the grey wire is a switched 12 volts output so the suggestion regarding the electric aerial is probably correct. It would be nice to get a aerial to go with the radio so a little research is required to locate the maker of a period item. The search for originality continues!

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PostPost by: RichardHawkins » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:37 pm

Karl,

I bought an electric aerial from either Auto Electric Supplies or Vehicle wiring products.
Annoyingly, I cannot find one in either catalogue. The item took a long time to arrive, so whoever I bought it from had no stock.

The manufacturer was Ring Automotive, and the number on the package is AE914.

Hope this helps, but I have no idea if it is period correct.

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PostPost by: rgh0 » Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:24 am

Original documents on installation that came with my radio

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PostPost by: fasterbyelan » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:04 am

Thanks for the pdf's Rohan.

The radio I have is a different model (22RN513) although it works in the same manner, the rear is not the same. A picture of the radio is below with a rear view obtained of the net.

I have the wiring sorted now and as I has the original single speaker located behind the driver, things are looking good from the originality angle.

Just need the name of a period manufacture of electric aerial now. I have emailed a couple of Classic Car radio suppliers so lets hope they come good!

22RN513 Front.JPG and

22RN513 Rear.JPG and
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PostPost by: jimj » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:23 am

I really like the look of a radio in the dash rather than a blanking plate. What puts me off is that some oik will think it`s good idea to slash the hood or break a window, then damage the dash to steal it. I never lock the Elan when parked for that reason, leaving nothing of value in it.
Last year a pal with a Healey had the tonneau ripped off and ruined. They knicked his wife`s wooly hat not noticing the Berghaus fleece behind the seats, nor bothering to undo the Tenax fastenings.
A A Gill used a great expression recently describing the sort of person who would have a Jeep Grand Cherokee: "He`d think a carbon footprint was the mark left when you nuked a sap with a flamethrower". A great expression and what I`d like to do to these oiks, in a non-violent way, of course.
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PostPost by: nmauduit » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:15 pm

fasterbyelan wrote:At long last I have obtained a Turnolock radio without paying OTT for it. It is the 22RN513 variety and in great visual condition.

I have been unable to get an installation document for the radio and am therefore unsure what the grey coloured wire is for. It comes out the back next to the negative/black wire and is fitted with a Lucas Female connector. I suspect it is to illuminate the display but am reluctant to stick 12V up it for fear of frying my new toy!

Would be grateful for some advice and a copy of the manual if anyone has one. I do have the manual for the earlier version but the wiring is clearly different.

Cheers!


same here... though the initial post is a few years old, I thought I could keep it alive so in case others may find the content of use.

I'm sure you've figured out how to connect your 22RN513 by now, but here's what I've found about the rear panel.

red/black:+12VDC/-
grey: for electrical aerial (+12VDC controlled by the on/off switch at the volume knob)

DIN 5/6 270° : mono aux input, to connect external cassette tape player ... or these days MP3

Some schematics or other parts of manuals can be found for instance on :
https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/philips_22rn51319.html

schematic 22RN513 b.pdf
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schematic 22RN513 d.pdf
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schematic 22RN513.pdf
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schematic 22RN513 c.pdf
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...

There are several websites quite informative regarding vintage autoradios, including (mostly in French...) :
http://antique-autoradio-madness.org/Ph ... 970_01.htm

For instance, I found out that Radiola had offered in period autoradios that look very similar to the Philips turnolocks found on elans...

though one would need to double check for exact model and variations before embarking on deep tinkering : e.g. mine is a "spyder deluxe" /22 version and has a 6 DIN at the rear (with a special cap bridging 1 and 2: tuner out and amp in), while the schematic for the "standard" /19 version shows a 5 DIN (no central pin).

http://antique-autoradio-madness.org/Bl ... -MP3_1.htm
mono-hack-for-stereo-aux-mix.jpg and
mono hack for stereo AUX input


ps: FM later models (513) are about 1cm deeper than non FM early turnolock (314)

To be continued...
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