Cam cover colour

PostPost by: Dieschelan » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:03 pm

Hi

What is the correct colour for the cam cover for an elan S3 S/E?

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PostPost by: gjz30075 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:41 pm

Green, according to Wilkin's book on Twin cams. What shade of green is probably another topic.
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PostPost by: Chrispy » Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:15 pm

Mini engine hammertone green apparently. Which is what I found some traces of on the cover of my early plus 2 which was of the early style with the writing on both sides.
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PostPost by: Dieschelan » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:13 pm

gjz30075 wrote:Green, according to Wilkin's book on Twin cams. What shade of green is probably another topic.


Has someone the paint reference of the green? Is the reference similar us the green used in the lotus cortina stripe?
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PostPost by: Mazzini » Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:02 am

My first S3 S/E, which I bought in 1984, had 'metallic' mid green cam cover, I couldn't find traces of any other paint. It could have been repainted, but it still had the chassis number written on the front of the engine (kit built) so I guess it could have been original. My current S3 and previous S3's that owned have had MOWOG green camcovers or at least traces of that colour.

I think the shade of green used on Lotus Cortinas is different. I also think that Quality Control in the 1960's was laughable and Lotus would have used paints that were 'close enough'.
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PostPost by: Old English White » Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:37 pm

Dieschelan wrote:
gjz30075 wrote:Green, according to Wilkin's book on Twin cams. What shade of green is probably another topic.


Has someone the paint reference of the green? Is the reference similar us the green used in the lotus cortina stripe?
Hi Dieschelan,
Yes, green would be a correct color for an S3 S/E.
But it is far from a Cortina Lotus stripe.
In fact, it was a kind of metalic paint effect called hammered. On S3's, light blue was for sdt engines, mid green for S/E engines. So,
I will use Hammerite "Mid-green hammered paint".
https://www.thepaintstore.com/Hammerite ... 431051.htm
Prefer use it with an airless spray for better result.
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PostPost by: Mazzini » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:44 pm

This is MOWOG green
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PostPost by: Old English White » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:11 pm

Yes Mazzini.
This color may cope with S1's or S2's but certainly not on an S3 S/E.
I think you ll find a clue here:
lotus-twincam-f39/cam-cover-colours-t20706.html
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PostPost by: Mazzini » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:37 pm

I guess we'll just have to disagree.
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PostPost by: Old English White » Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:20 pm

Mazzini wrote:I guess we'll just have to disagree.

My 66 S3 Elan, still with its original cover had similar hammered mid green paint (under a few layers of paint. But this one, was a lot harder to remove).
I have seen number of S3, and when still with original cover, they all had hammered paint, blue or green.
So, Mazzini, let's talk about yours, with such MOWOG green.
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PostPost by: Mazzini » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:13 pm

I suggest you re-read my original post, I'm not sure if you understood it.

The blue hammered finish was on the standard engines.

My S3 S/E dhc was sold in April '67, it was sold to its second owner in December '68, he had it till he sold it to me in 2011. The car had done 46,000 miles from new. The engine, other than the water pump, had not been apart, it still had the chassis number written on the top of the front cover - the engine had not been painted. I matched the cam cover colour to what was there originally, it looks a little dark in the photo...I guess somebody at Lotus must have painted it the wrong colour.
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PostPost by: elanfan1 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:16 am

Does this help as to the shade?

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PostPost by: Mazzini » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:38 am

Yes! Thanks that's it. BMC A series green. MOWOG is was on a lot of BMC stuff in the 50's and 60's,

Thanks Steve, better colour than in my dark photo.
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PostPost by: Washer » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:09 pm

Hi

When it became time to redecorate my 1967 +2 cam cover (lotus down each side), scraping the tatty black crinkle paint off revealed that it had been previously painted green. Not a hammer finish but flat paint in the BMC MOWOG shade of green.

Although it is not a very stylish finish I decided to repaint it in green. The lighter shade as I believe there were two shades of green used by BMC.

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PostPost by: Craven » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:47 pm

Story is the green paint used by Morris-Wolseley Group, MOWOG was army surplus left over from war time production, so probably there were many suppliers and shades.
It would not surprise me if the Grey ( Battle Ship grey ) has similar origins.
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