el-saturn wrote:as already stated: way too much compression even though the the head has a height of 116,96 and 38cc head volume: which is standard. static "measurement" (clay) revealed more than 2mm clearance between inlet valve and piston at tdc. the current pistons have a 3mm dome which lead (twice now) to the following gasket condition. i'd like to shave as little as necessary, let's say 1 mil off of the pistons!! anxious to get some opinions - hope this "letter" achieves the target of being received where it M U S T get/be sandy
Hi Sandy
I would question the "way to much compression". You need to do a full set of measurements and full compression ratio calculation before you can say that. Like I said before the gasket should be good for 13:1 and you will not be running that on road fuel without serious pre-ignition and knock. Using a 87mm bore gasket certainly would make the fire-ring area around No 4 cylinder to the water passage weaker and the most likely point of failure but there may be something else going on like pre-ignition or overly advance timing leading to higher than normal cylinder pressures.
I use a 85mm gasket bore in my 83.5mm bore engines and have never had a failure like yours when running 13:1 on Avgas let alone 11:1 on road fuel'
Below are the calculations for a standard sprint 1558cc specification engine and for my last 1596 cc ( 83.5mm bore) race engine build designed to run on 98 octane ( R+M/2) premium unleaded and relatively short duration cams (300 degrees seat to seat inlet and 285 exhaust) This build was deliberately conservative as not much data around on race engines using standard fuels and for the one I am building now I will aim for maybe 11.3 comp ratio.
Note the race engine has a standard thickness head with a slightly larger than standard head chamber volume due to larger valves and relieving around the valves for improved breathing. The piston is a JE piston with a 5mm intruder height and larger cut outs having been machined down from the normal 6 mm you see supplied by most race piston makers.
Compression ratio :
swept volume 389.37 cc 398.38 cc
head chamber volume 36.00 cc 41.00 cc
gasket space volume 3.29 cc 3.97 cc
deck clearance volume 2.76 cc 2.82 cc
piston head land volume 0.95 cc 0.73 cc
piston intrusion volume -1.00 cc -7.63 cc
Clearance volume 41.99 cc 40.89 cc
CR 10.27 10.74
Your engine with 38 cc combustion chamber and larger bore gasket and 3 mm intruder height I would expect to be around 11:1 at most and "not way to much" but it depends on the other measurements also such as piston deck to block top clearance and clearance down the side of the piston to the top ring ( piston head land volume)
Getting a 12 or 13:1 comp ratio in a Twin Cam takes some work with a racing valve engine as the valves have to be seated further into the head to clear each other and it generally requires substantial shaving of the head to reduce the combustion chamber size down into the 35 cc region
cheers
Rohan