weird smell problem with different wheels

PostPost by: zeteclotus » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:25 pm

Been playing with tyre sizes as my alloys need new tyres I had a set of 185/60 13 on steel wheels which fit very well, nice handling and fit with standard springs but the steel wheels do not look that nice.

Faster 0-30 time as well :) I will worry about the speedo later:)

So i put the Alloys back on with 165 /80 /13 these are quite a bit bigger about 1 inch all around.


The 1 inch in height difference causes the exhaust to come inside the car!!!

I really did not belive this, so I swaped the wheels back, sure enough no exhaust smell !!! ( The tyres are not rubbing anywhere)

Has any one else noticed this?

I am going try moving the exhaust pipe but I think its more to do with the wake behind the car, so I might have to lengthen the pipe?
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PostPost by: 1964 S1 » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:28 pm

Some people have noticed this before on +2's. Lengthening the exhaust tip is an easy way to find out if that's the problem. It does seem to be caused by the wake, as you say, behind the car.
[ ...... reflective update....... the +2 has wind tunnel technology incorporated in it's design. Maybe they found a Kamm effect design beyond "normal" ranges, pushing and sucking air, including muffled exhaust gases (through loose fitting boot/trunk seals?)... ]
Does having the windows up or down make a difference? Maybe it's being sucked in through the fresh air outlets on the roof pillar....
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PostPost by: ppnelan » Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:20 pm

It's a 'special feature' that allows you to remotely detect whether the boot lid is open when you set off. :lol: If it is, you will soon begin to feel queasy as exhaust fumes are sucked into the interior... :shock: :wink:

This is why a lot of +2s have long tailpipes that protrude well beyond the bumper. I think they (including mine) look a bit naff though... Perhaps it is possible to seal up the boot & any boot floor holes to stop this effect?

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PostPost by: 1964 S1 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:14 am

.... as Pee Wee Herman said.... everyone has a big,
BUT did they come from the factory with exhaust fumes in the cabin? A stock exhaust didn't stick out too far... maybe it is that rubber seal on the rear deck lid....
Mine has a dual chrome tip sticking well out from the back bumper, no boot latch at all, and no fumes,,,(well, maybe some oil smell from the engine bay....)
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PostPost by: zeteclotus » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:51 pm

What suprises me is the ride height effecting the length the tail pipe needs to be.

I am going to when I get a chance. lowering the output pipe from the exhaust. I suspect this might work and would also explain why some people have a problem and others need 8 inch exhaust pipes.




My boot seal is air tight I have even tried putting masking tape over the join.

Taped up the boot side vents holes shut the windows -no smell turn the heater on an it sucks exhaust in! And the exhaust is not leaking near the front.

Extending the exhaust pipe solves the problem but I know I am going to hit my shin on it when in the garage.



Does any one have a airtunnel pictures of a +2?

To stop the fumes with the high tyres I seem to need about an 8 inch tail pipe!!

Currently made from a piece of 2 inch blue band water pipe bit heavy but was just the right size for the test.

Apparently the tail pipes on an XJS are shaped to stop just this effect. I don't belive it as I have driven xjs's with missing tail pipes and still not had the exhaust in the cabin problems I seem to have with the +2

I am thinking of of running the exhaust straight up through the bonnet and over the roof ! solve the fume problem and the ground clearance problem in one go!
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PostPost by: handi_andi » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:10 pm

What about trying a pointy down adapter piece on the end? that way in theory at least ensuring a good venturi effect sucking the exhaust out.
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