Flordia tranny repair recommendation for Europa 5 Speed.
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I met a guy recenlt who has a nice europa and has been have problems with his transmission. He lives in Flordia and it is a 1974, 5 Speed model,
The issue is " It does not go into 2nd, 4th, and reverse. It is not a linkage problem"
Can anyone recommend a good shop with experience?
Thanks
James
The issue is " It does not go into 2nd, 4th, and reverse. It is not a linkage problem"
Can anyone recommend a good shop with experience?
Thanks
James
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holywood3645 - Coveted Fifth Gear
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I cannot, but suggest that you contact the guys at Wirewheels.com. They sell numerous Lotus and might be able to point you in the right direction?
http://www.wirewheel.com/
Cheers
Rob
http://www.wirewheel.com/
Cheers
Rob
50/2180 1969 Elan Plus 2
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1990 Esprit Turbo SE
1986 Carrera 3.2
1982 Turbo Esprit - SOLD
1970 Europa S2 - SOLD
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Twenty-five years ago I had one of the last Europa Specials built, it was factory owned till '79. Reverse gear involved me fishing round the box for five minutes then my girlfriend would get out and push the car backward... I could adjust the linkage so I could get fifth gear or reverse but not both.
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Mazzini - Coveted Fifth Gear
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My Europa had 4th to reverse clash shift problems so I added a small strong spring from the rear of the trans axle to the shift rod .this increases the effort for reverse and aids the shift into 4 th ...no welding required ...ed
dont close your eyes --you will miss the crash
Editor: On June 12, 2020, Edward Law, AKA TwinCamMan, passed away; his obituary can be read at https://www.friscolanti.com/obituary/edward-law. He will be missed.
Editor: On June 12, 2020, Edward Law, AKA TwinCamMan, passed away; his obituary can be read at https://www.friscolanti.com/obituary/edward-law. He will be missed.
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twincamman - Coveted Fifth Gear
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James,
I'm in the wrong country to be able to help with a shop, but your friend might have more luck trying one of the Europa forums just in case there's specific knowledge available. The two that spring to mind are Joe's Europa forum at
http://www.lotuseuropa.org/LotusForum/index.php
From this forum Joe has included several links to other enthusiast pages, including one which has workshop manuals for the Renault gearboxes and a good rundown on what's available. In the UK at least, the original 5sp box is rare and difficult to obtain some parts for, so if it really is terminal it might be a case of fitting another box.
And of course there is the Yahoo group which has a lot of very experienced guys contributing
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/LOTUSEUROPA/info
One of these guys has collated all the posts from the yahoo group and produced a searchable "knowledgebase" which will certainly take time to go through but might produce some helpful pointers
http://lotus-europa.com/ekb.html
Best of luck,
Brian
I'm in the wrong country to be able to help with a shop, but your friend might have more luck trying one of the Europa forums just in case there's specific knowledge available. The two that spring to mind are Joe's Europa forum at
http://www.lotuseuropa.org/LotusForum/index.php
From this forum Joe has included several links to other enthusiast pages, including one which has workshop manuals for the Renault gearboxes and a good rundown on what's available. In the UK at least, the original 5sp box is rare and difficult to obtain some parts for, so if it really is terminal it might be a case of fitting another box.
And of course there is the Yahoo group which has a lot of very experienced guys contributing
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/LOTUSEUROPA/info
One of these guys has collated all the posts from the yahoo group and produced a searchable "knowledgebase" which will certainly take time to go through but might produce some helpful pointers
http://lotus-europa.com/ekb.html
Best of luck,
Brian
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UAB807F - Fourth Gear
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Thanks for all the replies. I will pass the responses along. The owner may have to look a little further than his home state for a solution. Anyone in the US would be considered.
Keep the recommendations coming.
James
Keep the recommendations coming.
James
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holywood3645 - Coveted Fifth Gear
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There are two small rod ends on a turn buckle right in the middle of the car. These join the two shift levers . If you stress these with desperation shifting or just plain temper one or more will bend or break the center of the rod out causing slop in the shifter you can adjust these in or out for distance......I put the aforementioned spring on the transaxle to remove slop after replacing a broken rod end ...3:
Check these , it means getting under a carefully and safely jacked up car and looking up with your nose an eighth of an inch from the part Ed
Check these , it means getting under a carefully and safely jacked up car and looking up with your nose an eighth of an inch from the part Ed
dont close your eyes --you will miss the crash
Editor: On June 12, 2020, Edward Law, AKA TwinCamMan, passed away; his obituary can be read at https://www.friscolanti.com/obituary/edward-law. He will be missed.
Editor: On June 12, 2020, Edward Law, AKA TwinCamMan, passed away; his obituary can be read at https://www.friscolanti.com/obituary/edward-law. He will be missed.
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twincamman - Coveted Fifth Gear
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I am no expert on Europas, but have helped a few friends in shifting issues. The most important thing we learned was to find the slop in the linkage and eliminate it. We replaced almost every piece of plastic and rubber, plus the plate and spherical bearing under the gear lever. What a difference it made! You could actually select the desired gear on the first try!
There is no cure for Lotus, only treatment.
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StressCraxx - Coveted Fifth Gear
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I owned both a 4 speed 72 Europa and a 74 Special. Nearly won the SCCA Solo II Championship with the 74. Absolutely a magnificent car!
Now let me tell you what was wrong when I thought I blew up my 5 speed. I was at Rockford Speedway at a Solo II event that utilized the banking and the infield. When the track would transition from the infield to the banking, the entire suspension would bottom out from the g force. I felt great, especially when the back end would start to come around on the banking and when done right would aim you perfectly for the infield.
On the third run, while the whole suspension was bottomed out, it became hard to get back to 2 gear! Oh, I thought "this is going to be expensive. It was very hard to get it gear, and not having a trailer, I nursed it home the 75 miles, and like you, could not get reverse.
That night I checked the linkage, drained the oil and looked for metal shavings (There were none found) and then, when I was so frustrated and started thing where can I take this for a correct but too costly a fix, BAMM! I found the problem! The motor mount had broken which allowed the transmission to tilt just enough that it messed up all the linkage geometry. I supported the motor oil pan on some boards, removed the motor mount, welded up where it broke all the way through and then gusseted it for more strength, and re-installed the mount. Walla! The trans was fine and shifted as good as ever!
Best of luck and I hope you are having the same problem.
Famous Frank
Now let me tell you what was wrong when I thought I blew up my 5 speed. I was at Rockford Speedway at a Solo II event that utilized the banking and the infield. When the track would transition from the infield to the banking, the entire suspension would bottom out from the g force. I felt great, especially when the back end would start to come around on the banking and when done right would aim you perfectly for the infield.
On the third run, while the whole suspension was bottomed out, it became hard to get back to 2 gear! Oh, I thought "this is going to be expensive. It was very hard to get it gear, and not having a trailer, I nursed it home the 75 miles, and like you, could not get reverse.
That night I checked the linkage, drained the oil and looked for metal shavings (There were none found) and then, when I was so frustrated and started thing where can I take this for a correct but too costly a fix, BAMM! I found the problem! The motor mount had broken which allowed the transmission to tilt just enough that it messed up all the linkage geometry. I supported the motor oil pan on some boards, removed the motor mount, welded up where it broke all the way through and then gusseted it for more strength, and re-installed the mount. Walla! The trans was fine and shifted as good as ever!
Best of luck and I hope you are having the same problem.
Famous Frank
Famous Frank
67 Elan Coupe
66 Elan S2 SE
65 Elan S2
65 Elan 26R
69 S2 Europa
06 Elise
67 Barracuda
67 Elan Coupe
66 Elan S2 SE
65 Elan S2
65 Elan 26R
69 S2 Europa
06 Elise
67 Barracuda
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Famous Frank - Fourth Gear
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Hmm, a few typo's.
"I felt great" should read, "It felt great".
"started thing" should read "started thinking"
"but too costly" should read "but not too costly"
My apologies if there are more. No wonder I'm not getting hired!
"I felt great" should read, "It felt great".
"started thing" should read "started thinking"
"but too costly" should read "but not too costly"
My apologies if there are more. No wonder I'm not getting hired!
Famous Frank
67 Elan Coupe
66 Elan S2 SE
65 Elan S2
65 Elan 26R
69 S2 Europa
06 Elise
67 Barracuda
67 Elan Coupe
66 Elan S2 SE
65 Elan S2
65 Elan 26R
69 S2 Europa
06 Elise
67 Barracuda
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Famous Frank - Fourth Gear
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Thanks for the insight. I will pass along.
James
James
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holywood3645 - Coveted Fifth Gear
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Hurrah, it's fixed! But what was the fix? Interested parties want to know!!!
Famous Frank
Famous Frank
Famous Frank
67 Elan Coupe
66 Elan S2 SE
65 Elan S2
65 Elan 26R
69 S2 Europa
06 Elise
67 Barracuda
67 Elan Coupe
66 Elan S2 SE
65 Elan S2
65 Elan 26R
69 S2 Europa
06 Elise
67 Barracuda
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Famous Frank - Fourth Gear
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It's not fixed.... He was have some fun
James
James
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holywood3645 - Coveted Fifth Gear
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