Re: Q plates
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:26 pm
Has anyone read the brochure? It's classy Very 70's
http://storm.oldcarmanualproject.com/lo ... nt1971.htm
http://storm.oldcarmanualproject.com/lo ... nt1971.htm
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Elanintheforest wrote:Greg, I think that you need to consider the Theseus Ship paradox in all it's frustrating glory in order to come to a conclusion about the pretend owner's repaired Elan....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
As Greg says, if you are daft enough to inform them that you have changed your chassis, then you deserve everything you get.
EPC 394J wrote:As Greg says, if you are daft enough to inform them that you have changed your chassis, then you deserve everything you get.
That encapsulates the entire argument.
If the part that the manufacturer refers to in all it?s reference material as a chassis, has been changed. And if that chassis (that many argue is a subframe?) is not to the original spec. But is a more ?modern?/?better? design. Then the ?best? way to prevent problems is to just stay schtum. Because if you inform the licensing authority you have a spaceframe chassis. It?s possible that authority will award you a Q plate? As the licensing authority no longer accept it as a ?historic? vehicle, because it has clearly and obviously been the subject of a substantial and more modern ?improvement?? It?s not about any numbers, which may or may not be stamped on the structure. It?s just a totally different design.
It does seem to be a Catch 22 situation? Push the matter with the authority, and run the risk of possibly achieving a result few seem to want. Or sweep it under the carpet?
Neither seem to be great options.
I imagine if this matter became more widely known in the marketplace, it could affect values.
It's an amount of the German philosophy bleeding into the Uk thanks to the EU, as Practical classic's said in a country like the Uk with a culture of classic car modification for safety/reliability how can you have a non tolerance to modification or expect a 40+ year old car to pass a modern MOT (i believe they used a de dion as an example)