+2 1069 Battery & Starter

[grahammay2]

Suggestions please what are the prefered replacements for Battery and Starter Motor Elan +2 1969 . Are these units supplied by PM top notch?

All comments welcomed
Graham

[bcmc33]

The best source I found for starter motors - http://www.lukemotorsport.co.uk/lukemotorsportuk.html

For the twink order the 9 tooth pinion and RH mounting.

[Jason1]

Or for starters try:

http://www.minispares.com/Shop.aspx?ty= ... 7eStarters

[leojenbo]

I have just installed a Brise starter, and my Sprint starts excellent now even at temperatures below zero.
It's very powerful, 2KW. weight only 2,5kg.
For the baby Elan it must only have 2 bolt eyes. I don't know if there are more rrom in the Plus 2 engine bay.
http://www.brise.co.uk/starter_motors.html

[rocket]

P.Matty supplied my starter motor just over a year ago and its been excellent...

[msd1107]

There is another thread addressing roughly the same area

http://www.lotuselan.net/forums/viewtop ... highlight=

About the only addition is the Gustafson starter and alternator. It seems everybody starts with the same basic components. The Gustafson site claims their kit is engineered for the Elan. They are widely available in the US as well as overseas.

David
1968 36/7988

[CBUEB1771]

The Gustafson site claims their kit is engineered for the Elan.

Keith Gustafson made his first starter motor conversion specifically for his own +2 before starting his business. I recall he was working as a machinist/technician at a physics lab at Harvard University at the time. Ouch, that was a long time ago.

[john.p.clegg]

Dear All

Are we talking pre-engaged or inertia type starters?

Can both types be used?

What are the pro's and con's

Many thanks

John

[bcmc33]

There are only benefits from fitting a pre-engaged starter motor -- unless you are an ardent original gist.
> The pre-engaged starter turns the engine over more quickly for much less load on the battery.
> There should be no wear on the pinion and starter ring as the pinion is not rotating until fully engaged.
> The bonus benefit is that you can get pre-engaged starters with a 9 tooth pinion ? a very rare commodity with inertia starters. :D

If anyone wants an inertia starter, I have one sitting in my workshop that can be collected free of charge.

[john.p.clegg]

Would that be a modern unit or the Lucas heavyweight type?

John

P.S. do the pre-engaged all have a "lump" on the side "solenoid" ?

[alan71]

The Brise one has an axial solenoid - no lump on the side

Alan.

[john.p.clegg]

Alan
Axial solenoid? so it could look like the Lucas? same size?
Does anyone have any comparison photos/dimensions/etc.

Thanks
John

[john.p.clegg]

Sorry for being lazy,just had a look myself and it seems that Brise is the way to go....any arguments?

Thanks
John

[bcmc33]

John,

Your conclusion surprises me - in view of the low cost FI option you took.

The Brise is a nice unit, but not twice as nice as the Nippondenso otions.

[leojenbo]

Alan
Axial solenoid? so it could look like the Lucas? same size?
Does anyone have any comparison photos/dimensions/etc.

Thanks
John

The Brise starter is about 1 cm smaller in diameter, which makes it a little easier to install. It is a little longer, maybe 1-1,5cm